Neither have any ink or lead. I believe the newer one is a pencil rather than pen. This one is weightier weighing approximately 18.5 grams.It does have a name etched into it but I believe any good jeweller should be able to remove/change that. The ornate pen has a 14k nib. Weighs approximately 12.4 grams. Note damage to the top; it does look like it has an old repair. V&S Birmingham with the date letter'f' for 1905. Overall two lovely silver pieces. Please study the photographs provided. Please take a look at my other jewellery listings. Remember this is a second-hand piece/vintage so it will have some signs of wear; I will always try my best to describe any significant marks/damage.